welcome your take my take it live our phone lines are now open so if you want to share an opinion maker question comments live on the air give us a call or two of two nine zero four twenty one thirty four add a one before the number for our international viewers i want to and we're first going to go to our video comment that we had a rant line and we got some callers are going to get to but first i just wanted to cher's you don't need to call about nelson mandela specifically if you have a recollection that you'd like to share i'd love to hear it but you know we can talk about anything you like my recollections of net nelson mandela throughout his life for our throughout my life are these little bright moments of

noticing the news kind of thing you know being an american. i wasn't following south africa continuously but i was conscious of and supportive of the movement the diet best and your movement to get particularly universities to divest themselves of. money in south african companies and i know when nelson mandela spoke in oakland university at the at the stadium there in one thousand nine hundred two i believe it was he thanked the students for getting the university to divest themselves of south african assets and that divestment was a was a big deal. when the week that i spent with his holiness the dalai lama one of the guys in our group and this is part of this is in that video that harrison ford made about. was one of the leaders of the anti-apartheid divestment movement around the

world. and he suggested to the dalai lama that we should do something like that on his behalf so that people would not buy chinese products and the dalai lama was unwilling to go quite that far it's a whole nother story for another time but that was that those those were very strong times and there were very strong opinions in america about it. those of us on the left were very supportive of the sure movement in other words don't invest in south africa those on the right were saying by not investing in south africa we were actually hurting the very people that we were claiming to help because people working people many african many of the black south africans working people were losing their jobs were being thrown into poverty because the divestiture movement which was true and yet it was arguably the main thing that brought down that government. i remember also. the truth and

reconciliation commission that totally blew my mind. i remember when nelson mandela became president of south africa and he said and i remember when he when he accepted the nobel prize with what was it e.-w. to clerk or f.w. de klerk whatever the guy's name was that the white racist guy who had been the president before him. and the two of them got the nobel peace prize. and here's the man who threw him in prison and had him you know essentially tortured. and had killed his friends. and he said i forgive this. and he any created this reconciliation commission where there were there were people i mean not a few of them there were thousands probably tens maybe hundreds certainly thousands tens of thousands of people who had been in the secret services the police forces the under the the horror forces of that white apartheid government.

who had. literally committed murder. who had gone out and killed and see leaders who had twenty who were using torture and rape and just the most horrific things and nelson mandela said if you will come forward and confess your crimes. you will never be prosecuted. we should do something like that here right now for the bush administration with regard to what they did in for all of our vets who have died people have died in afghanistan and iraq which does not of course even remotely rise to the level of what nelson mandela was doing. but one example this man says i wish more of the world would be paying attention to. and my last recollection nelson mandela is his is wrong or right i remember the reagan presidency and painter and all fired chair

arm of the reagan presidency really well and i can't remember a specific example of ronald reagan making a speech in which he called mandela a terrorist but the position of the reagan administration was that mandela was a terrorist in the n.c. was a terrorist organization and they were not supportive of that divestiture movement . and i think that's one of the real blots on the reagan presence. now i notice that we got a bunch of calls about nelson mandela so i'm going to pick up our videos which are off that topic a little later on first to michael in redwood city california michael thanks for calling in. a couple of american president nelson mandela for his friendship with fidel castro. and most americans didn't understand the french. south african army invaded.

the maybe a and then they occupied namibia and they invaded angola overthrow the socialist the white running south africa. and. cuba sent thousands of troops to angola. and with that cuban help angola was able to defeat the south african army. the south african government had not even imagined devoted south african army would ever lead to peace it sure can trace their roots of chickens so much they immediately began negotiations with the south coast africa people organizations which led to the freedom of maybe that's how the. death was a key factor. tuesday falls apart to hear about the sanctions new report but americans have never heard of the q will the cuba play to help free up with no shame in those who would never ever we know it's real close to right away new year

is always a year that was. do you recall what year that was. back in the seventy's ok i thought it might have been earlier and then i was wonder if it was tied into the to the death of dad hammers old and his flight that those there was a battle called the battle of people kind of all of which was the key battle which was supposed to be to them or me had ever experienced and that really did shake the powers. with the two which we have the key factor that americans are completely unaware michael thank you for being a better historian than me thanks for watching the show tonight i appreciate the call thank you thank you harmon in gaithersburg maryland you're on the air. tom thank you for having me i appreciate that. you made a really interesting. i had a night on the we're going to miss christian at a time where. i meant that i was defying full freedom. that was i was

a terrorist. i didn't see quite as a terrorist organization so he couldn't fighters i tried. and i'm always on a probably i would coast and i was really young when i saw it meant a lot coming out of prison i never i never even imagined one day would come out of prison. today by two thousand and eleven if somebody had been me i would coast where president well actually caught his whole life. he was a student who became president he got put in jail by the current president right now in the ivory coast which is actually a puppet of. the way. this person is country again can you imagine so many. what democracy and a pretty popular them in the ivory coast for school when he's hoping yours became

president and stop the game. because it would be pretty being proposed can treat people who want to more freedom want more economy freedom. fuck up again with so in reality you feel that he knew it was a terrorist or a swat with what they don't think. that's a portable off work and came clean to break away from the system so what i want to have like. this is out of field we don't fight it's not enough we want uppercut to rise and get better by the way always. get a mystery media. call it sort of like is sort of like watching history repeat itself as an army thank you thank you so much for the call and thanks for sharing your story tonight cory cory and langhorne pennsylvania cory here on the.

i was. in my pretty personal thing in the house and then those a great man did a lot of great things but no one seems to be mentioning that in nine hundred sixty one and downs in the circus around the military group that led on him and against the government and the reasons he did that well let me just pause you for a second just to put this in context for most of his life he preached nonviolence and then yeah. he joined a filing group and participated in there was a there there was a most waters receded and later he said nonviolence is one of the most powerful tools there is but sometimes you gotta step out of that i'm i'm i've always struggled with. let me toss it back to you cory your thoughts i was just wondering what like. descriptions i've heard of him today has been basically painting him as a saint and you don't get me wrong he was

a great man but i'm just wondering why our history books and why people don't remember the darker side of him and why it's not taught alongside well you know you can read instead of the darker side i mean you could you could simply call him a guerrilla leader i mean i. got very effective and kurt was cutting the video runner someplace today i spent two hours with. president salva kiir the president of south sudan who spent eighteen years as a guerrilla fighter out the bush fighting against. north sudan against and against . you know in order for the two to bring about the freedom of this country towards washington as a free for a a korea you're right and i think that both sides of nelson mandela need to be recognized but i don't think that i don't see that as a you know as a negative side frankly. who is that madison wisconsin i pronounce it right. here on the air we've got just one minute and we've got to pop off the air here so i'm going to yes very well you know there's all this. hand hand-wringing and all

about nelson mandela in the west and it is because he gave a basically a pass to the white and so that kind of fits well with people of that in the west they don't treat me the same way even though he was quite a strong stallman don't get me wrong mandela was a great person but he also dropped the ball by. keeping only a percentage maybe half a percent of blacks to take over the economic greens and the rest of the ninety nine percent as we saw in maracana mines have been suffering. how do i am a leader with that i'm familiar with that critique of him. and i think there's substance to it there so there's this is thank you so much for the call this is such a complex topic this man had such a complex life and south africa the history of south africa is such a extraordinary. and complex history and that's it for your take my take alive

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you probably have heard nelson mandela the former president of south africa has died he was ninety five years old. and to the devastating apartheid policies in south africa as part as a political prisoner who drew global attention to the apartheid struggle in one hundred sixty four he was sentenced to life in prison for sabotage and conspiracy to overthrow the government and spent the next twenty seven years in prison while the apartheid struggle continued and became a free man of europe one nine hundred ninety and four years later he became president of apartheid. south africa and he became that nation's first black

president. elected on the loss of mandela in a press conference earlier today. my very first political action the first thing. that involves an issue or policy or fault it. was a protest against apartheid. i would study his words it is right. the day he was released from prison. gave me a sense of what human beings can do when they're guided by their hopes and not by their fears. and like so many around the globe i cannot fully imagine my own wife with the example that nelson mandela. and so long as i live i will do what i can to learn from him nelson mandela was a hero to millions of people all across the globe and his dignity and heroism and

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found that equal amount of money in her purse and just time left on that count on the kind hearted gesture from the soul of a stranger was enough to at least temporarily make frank constantini feel like a million bucks if you like the pain of it was gone and help this family believes that good still exists where to go have the bad us military yeah i'm going down town hall bay prison hunger strike has helped reinvigorate the debate surrounding closing that facility is likely the reason that the military announced on one's day that it will no longer make public the number of detainees on strike a chord in the most recent reports that number stood at fifteen on monday a four person jump from november to our military revealing the number of detainees on strike serves no operational purpose of detracts from the more important issues which are the welfare of detainees and the safety and security of our troops and their words the army cares more about how the strike affects its public relations

campaign the high. right and it does about solving the underlying issues at stake you know if the military actually want to solve its p.r. problem it could start by doing one simple thing that's closing down the prison the only problem course is that requires congressional authorization which means that they have to go through john. and the very very ugly congressman duncan hunter republican california congressman appeared on c.-span wednesday to discuss american foreign policy in the middle east when asked about his thoughts on war with iran here's how he responded. around the war in iraq with american boots on the ground which would be a horrible book and i think people like to toss or toss around the fact that we have to stop them from getting this nuclear capability i don't think it's inevitable but i think if you have to get iran you don't would be on the ground to do with radical nuclear devices and you set them back a decade or two or three. i think that's the way to do with a massive aerial bombardment campaign that's right no groom and people wonder why

don't trust the united states politics this is a theory about. the free speech rights of american citizens are under attack all across america but if you're a corporation you have all a free speech you watch yesterday for example the supreme court heard arguments and u.s. versus apple the case centers around john donne a staple an anti-war protester who was arrested on a california military base even though he was in a spot that had been designated as a freeze speech zone for public protests. people went to the supreme court arguing that is first amendment rights have been violated after he was arrested for

protesting in that designated protest area however a majority of the justices seemed in the arguments to think that his case was really not about a violation of his first amendment rights in fact justice scalia went so far as to say you can raise the first amendment but we don't have to listen to first amendment reads congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of this of speech or of the press or of the right of people to peaceably assemble and to petition the government for redress of grievances because apple was protesting on a military base which is not protected under the first amendment is probably going to lose its case that school is refusal to address april's first amendment argument is a stark reminder that all across this country if you're an american citizen your right to free speech is already under attack the free speech rights of americans were under attack in oakland california in october two thousand and twenty eleven when

peaceful occupy oakland protesters were met with clouds of tear gas and winding flash bang grenades from oakland police officers just a month earlier n.y.p.d. officers cattle and pepper sprayed a crowd of occupy wall street protesters despite a total lack of. other than the violence by the police in august of two thousand and twelve peaceful protesters at the republican national convention in tampa bay were met by hyper militarized police who look like a blog on the streets of benghazi the amp for years earlier at the r. and c. in minneapolis democracy now host amy goodman was arrested and charged with conspiracy to riot even though she was just reporting. so was ironic that he was doing that you were right. right right right there right there. was right it's all right if you are asked the governor there.

was. any you or me yet and just the summer nonviolent protesters at the annual alec conference in chicago or push out get arrested by chicago police officers take a look. i was thinking that i. was saying earlier that the wall protesters are getting gassed in oakland and hitting the pavement in chicago the free speech rights of corporations are being protected at all costs by police forces across america and by the conservative justices on the supreme court who gave us the disaster's citizens united decision as long as the right wing corporatists continue to control

the supreme court will continue to see protesters being gassed assaulted and arrested for no legitimate reason to move to a mandatory and help show justice scalia and his conservative cohorts that money is property not speech and the corporations are legal fictions not people. and that the first amendment matters. and that's the way it is tonight thursday december fifth two thousand and thirteen and if you haven't checked out the climate change documentary that the picture staff and i helped create head over to last hours dot org as the hours explores the perils of climate change and solutions to avert disaster it is aster like another mass extinction and don't forget democracy begins with you get out there get active tag.

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it's thursday december fifth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm meghan lopez and you are watching our t.v. but we want to begin tonight with breaking news former south african president nelson mandela passed away at age fifty pm local time at his home in johannesburg south africa he was ninety five years old because of his lifelong crusade for tolerance equality and peace mondello has been viewed as a hero to people all around the world and was the biggest leader against apartheid south africans have been gathering outside of the mandela family home since the news broke of the former president's death they brought flowers and notes to bid their departed leader farewell.